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Here...I am sorry I did not see this answer before.<br /><br />Here is another set of photos that show 'shadows' or 'cut-outs':<br /><br /><a href="" rel="nofollow">Screen caps from enhanced Liwa video</a>William Scott Scherkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481476585908252323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-51647030295125501222013-11-24T01:25:53.203+00:002013-11-24T01:25:53.203+00:00Do you mean the dark rectangles? Those are just sh...Do you mean the dark rectangles? Those are just shadows. Take a look at the enhanced video. Much clearer there.<br />http://whoghouta.blogspot.com/2013/09/liwa-al-islam-videos-improved-quality.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-72532043469491654412013-11-24T00:52:05.708+00:002013-11-24T00:52:05.708+00:00I am confused by a couple of references to UMLACAs...I am confused by a couple of references to UMLACAs in this post and comments. <br /><br />Sasa Wawa writes: <i><b>Liwa Al-Islam Videos</b><br /><br />These videos published September 16th show militants shooting one shell from a Howitzer canon, and three UMLACA rockets. One UMLACA is clearly identifiable by its distinctive tail in one video</i><br /><br />To my eyes the tails (or fins) of the armament in the 'Liwa' videos do <i>not</i> show the distinctive tail of the UMLACAs. <br /><br />These images from the ':Liwa' video (at 'a closer look' wiki) shows a fin/tail that has an opening in the fins: <br /><br />http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/File:Liwa_al-Islam_UMLACA_Part2-0173.jpg<br /><br />http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/File:Liwa_al-Islam_UMLACA_Part2-0185.jpg<br /><br />These do not appear to be the same tails/fins as found on all extant pics of UMLACAs. <br /><br />Does this make a difference to your tentative conclusions?<br /><br />William Scott Scherkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481476585908252323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-28515062952509403522013-11-15T19:38:56.561+00:002013-11-15T19:38:56.561+00:00Sasa Wawa is, interestingly, an anagram of the tit...Sasa Wawa is, interestingly, an anagram of the title of the Edgar Broughton Band's first album, made in 1969: Wasa Wasa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-10007494199933963532013-11-05T22:36:26.877+00:002013-11-05T22:36:26.877+00:00Why is it a strange way of treating people? 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I don´t mean the picture at the top of p25, the arm is moved on that one, I agree.<br />The argument remains that it is a very strange way of treating people or filling up a room with dead people.<br />Look at the child with red shirt to left of pink shirt child. They managed to slip the child únder `the left arm of the pink child without moving it. If you look at the top picture p25 with pink and orange child, you see there is only a narrow space. Looking at the tiles, the children weren´t moved (ok, pink girl has her arm differently). 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