tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post9167114619303391334..comments2024-03-28T15:22:57.131+00:00Comments on Who Attacked Ghouta?: More on HexamineAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-25967582023660710622021-11-29T12:11:28.733+00:002021-11-29T12:11:28.733+00:00¿QUIENES SOMOS?
Somos un sitio de venta online de ...¿QUIENES SOMOS?<br />Somos un sitio de venta online de cachorros malteses. Todos los cachorros malteses registrados en nuestro sitio son reproducidos y criados en los Estados Unidos. Nos ocupamos totalmente del procedimiento de venta. Asegurándonos de que los cachorros sean de pura sangre y coincidan con todas las representaciones registradas en nuestro sitio.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.Perezshihtzu.com/" rel="nofollow"> cachorros shih tzu a la venta cerca de mí </a><br /><a href="https://www.Perezshihtzu.com/" rel="nofollow"> cachorros shih tzu a la venta </a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-12682243743238480512014-04-04T16:42:20.575+01:002014-04-04T16:42:20.575+01:00If you think it through it might even change your ...If you think it through it might even change your conclusion into "no sarin in rockets"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-33703118678631263022014-04-04T15:04:14.141+01:002014-04-04T15:04:14.141+01:00This point was raised by Paveway about 10 comments...This point was raised by Paveway about 10 comments above. Seems very relevant and I'll add it to a future post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-52005366255516396412014-04-04T09:51:47.264+01:002014-04-04T09:51:47.264+01:00IF hexamine was used as acid scavenger, should´t ...IF hexamine was used as acid scavenger, should´t hexaminefluoride salt have been found at impact site? ( hexamine was reported but not its salt (to explain what I mean: a lab would´t report sodium hydroxide if they found NaCl- kitchen salt). <br />The same goes for the isopropylamine fluoride salt which is not reported by UN. So I guess it wasn´t there and no stabilization was used.<br />What do you think?<br />Or where Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-44246419844641805022014-03-06T22:50:30.245+00:002014-03-06T22:50:30.245+00:00Interesting. Thanks!Interesting. Thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-47503828697673502082014-03-06T18:30:55.328+00:002014-03-06T18:30:55.328+00:00Interesting event (if confirmed) concerning the pr...Interesting event (if confirmed) concerning the previous news of chemicals smuggling from Turkey<br /><br />http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/178003#.Uxi-Zj9_vxc<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-1053925477291599872014-03-06T00:05:26.722+00:002014-03-06T00:05:26.722+00:00Thanks for the quote. I'll write a quick revie...Thanks for the quote. I'll write a quick review now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-62842334860920530842014-03-05T20:44:27.120+00:002014-03-05T20:44:27.120+00:00From the UN today....:
The evidence available con...From the UN today....:<br /><br />The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to manipulate safely large amount of chemical agents.<br /><br />Concerning the incident in Khan al-Assal on 19 March, the chemical agents used in that attack bore the same unique hallmarks as those used in al-Ghouta.<br /><br />Does this change any of your analysis?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-43817558326181621762014-02-17T21:00:10.191+00:002014-02-17T21:00:10.191+00:00Dan isn't guilty of anything besides noticing ...Dan isn't guilty of anything besides noticing the connection and writing about it first - I would have done the same if it supported my general view of what happened. *Someone* would eventually have pointed it out because it sticks out like a sore thumb and it kind of supports (however weakly) the 'Assad did it' argument, at least at first glance. <br /><br />As far as the UN's findings, it's irrelevant to me - personally - whether it's sloppy, an honest mistake or a lie. The result, either by omission or commission, suggests some level of confusion and deception is tolerable on the UN's part. I just can't accept that and still trust anything I see from the UN about this from now on. <br /><br />Sure, greater good and all because the CW program is being dismantled, but what happens a few months from now if someone decides to execute the biological weapons false flag. I see the skids being greased for that one right now by mainstream media. Why would the UN have any more credibility investigating that?PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-45739548705872575152014-02-17T18:46:39.694+00:002014-02-17T18:46:39.694+00:00Paveway,
Why would the UN promote the hexamine is...Paveway,<br /><br />Why would the UN promote the hexamine issue on purpose? How could they know that Dan Kaszeta would use it as an argument for Syrian Gov culpability a few months (or was it weeks) after the ´hint´was dropped? And the hex argument has no value at all, just used by Dan to attract attention. What is Dan´s motivation? Who knows?<br /><br />Remains the issue that no hexamine salts were detected. Do you think there were none (that is serious then), or just sloppy UN work?<br /><br />I think that´s a very important issue. If UN cannot differentiate between hexamine/hexamine salt, who says they can differentiate between GB or something that looks like it.veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-36659668922995142512014-02-17T08:10:26.255+00:002014-02-17T08:10:26.255+00:00The chemistry behind it is: add a fluorine or chlo...The chemistry behind it is: add a fluorine or chlorine atom to a hexamine molecule and it is no longer called a hexamine molecule. Thermally-degraded hexamine is no longer hexamine. Finding hexamine isn't an issue, but finding none of it's thermal degradation products or none of the acid-reaction products is just bizarre. <br /><br />Even if the claim is made that they found altered hexamine and just didn't chose to report that as an 'interesting chemical', then you have to consider the statistical improbability that they would call hexamine out *and* Syria would declare an enormous amount of an unexpected non-scheduled substance - hexamine - as part of their CW stockpile. It's not like they declared it as a result of the OPCW report.<br /><br />That and the fact that nobody is known to use it in their CW programs, Syria had not only adequate but the 'right' amount of the amine that they would need for their declared GB2, and not another single mystery chemical with an unexplained use was declared (according to guesses based on the OPCW RFPs) or found by the OPCW on tested sites. It all sounds too strangely convenient, but is still enough of a factoid to give 99% of the average CNN viewers ample 'proof' of a connection with Assad.<br /><br />It fits the UN's passive-aggressive approach of claiming total neutrality and focusing on CW yes/no, but then (fairly obviously) dropping little hints that go well beyond that mandate to suggest the guilty party. Their flawed back-azimuth measurements did not support yes/no in any way. Why report them at all? Things that do directly support the yes/no determination like matching samples to results were turned into a guessing game. They have to realize what this looks like to the rest of the world.<br /><br />PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-57814548252543427432014-02-17T03:29:21.110+00:002014-02-17T03:29:21.110+00:00Short memories? I have to say that's hardly co...Short memories? I have to say that's hardly common knowledge, Jody. You know way more about this stuff than most, so I trust there was some RDX mass-production in Syria. I'll gladly defer to you - my geezer EOD pal will be scolded harshly and it will cost him many beers. The location of the plant doesn't interest me much if you say they made it. Ultimately, you're saying trace amounts of hexamine could have come from *Syrian* sourced RDX. Good enough for me - I just didn't know they made any.<br /><br />I understand the obvious Iran connection with Syria for sales of arms, but not about them helping Syria develop any capability. Or was Syria making it (partially) for Iran's consumption? I don't understand why Iran wouldn't just make their own. Syria can't have had much better chemical engineering talent than Iran the last decade. I don't think the raw materials are an issue (aside from cost).<br /><br />Hezbollah? I know their link to Iran, but vaguely recall that they didn't care much for Assad before the war. I'm not getting if there's some other kind of connection your suggesting other than as a consumer. I imagine Hezbollah would want RDX if they could get it no matter who made it. PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-52875345447358843052014-02-16T15:13:10.967+00:002014-02-16T15:13:10.967+00:00If I understand well, the problem is the reporting...If I understand well, the problem is the reporting of hexamine instead of its Cl or F salts? I see four possibilities:<br /><br />1/ sloppy UN-reporting , or <br />2/ intentional "UN-hiding-stuff" reporting, or <br />3/ it is the truth, or<br />4/ I don´t understand the chemistry behind it.<br /><br />If option 3 is the case (=pure hexamine was found and none of its salts), there is a big question mark concerning the GB find.<br /><br />Maybe option 4 is the most plausible?veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-8348644752841006242014-02-16T14:26:19.829+00:002014-02-16T14:26:19.829+00:00Just a couple of "intentionally vague" c...Just a couple of "intentionally vague" comments about RDX and Syria. Folks have very short memories about RDX (mass)production in Syria and its connections to their good buddies Iran and Hezbollah. The RDX manufactured in Syria has a unique (documented) chemical signature and if one were to dig deep enough they just might find this info and the exact location of the plant (in Syria ) that makes/made it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718716337874488769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-73891381835566207852014-02-16T11:32:36.199+00:002014-02-16T11:32:36.199+00:00Interesting. So what is his understanding of the H...Interesting. So what is his understanding of the Hexamine findings?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-7881759328994068262014-02-16T05:44:06.498+00:002014-02-16T05:44:06.498+00:00And (sorry) it should have been 80MT of hexamine i...And (sorry) it should have been 80MT of hexamine in my ramblings, not 40MT.PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-26153045490107608992014-02-16T05:41:01.145+00:002014-02-16T05:41:01.145+00:00That's not my point. Arms makers use 1) what t...That's not my point. Arms makers use 1) what the military tells them to use, or 2) what they can make a profit on through sales. RDX is the Cadillac of choices and unlikely to be used by any country but the U.S. I don't have any references. You have to ask an EOD guys - they know stuff like this. If price or manufacturing difficulty was irrelevant, then I suppose everyone would use RDX. If Syria made the fuzes themselves or bought Iranian or Chinese, then there probably wasn't any RDX involved.<br /><br />Hexamine itself isn't expensive and there are plenty of other hexamin-based explosive compounds that could have been used. My EOD buddy thought the idea of finding *any* quantities of undegraded hexamine (and nothing else) after a conventional explosion to be laughable.If you're looking for minute amounts of raw manufacturing impurities you need way more than a solvent swipe on a spent weapon. <br /><br />His son was in Afghanistan. They constantly sent IEDs (or the remains) back to the states for neutron activation analysis by the FBI to find stuff like that. They can't use simple gas chromatograph mass spectrometry on a solvent swipe. If the solvent swipe did somehow just manage to pick up undegraded hexamine residue and undegraded TNT and nothing else, then it was probably some other hexamine-based explosive, not RDX. <br /><br />If the OPCW insists there was RDX residue as well, then they really should have send it to the FBI lab in Maryland for neutron activation to identify the U.S. supplied fusing or explosive manufacturer. PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-74467137894245192382014-02-16T00:52:53.736+00:002014-02-16T00:52:53.736+00:00Don't you think that for booster charges, that...Don't you think that for booster charges, that need to be small and efficient, it's a decent choice?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-41614709153028744842014-02-16T00:51:15.664+00:002014-02-16T00:51:15.664+00:00The second point is especially interesting. I too ...The second point is especially interesting. I too wondered why no product of Hexamine-HF or Isopropylamine-HF was reported. Anyone?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-31213644596253986622014-02-15T20:47:12.872+00:002014-02-15T20:47:12.872+00:00Back in tin-foil hat land: I don't believe the...Back in tin-foil hat land: I don't believe the 'reports' of 40MT of hexamine at all any more. It either just was never there, or its a red herring by the UN or Western Intelligence to mask some other agent they do not want to have publicly known. At the very least, any CW declaration of hexamine is absolutely preposterous when they didn't declare anything else except direct precursors.<br /><br />The UN's OPCW is not under any obligation to disclose Syria's declaration list. As far as I can tell, they are specifically *prohibited* from doing so *at all* by their charter members. Its not intended to be public information and might discourage non-members from signing on. 'Hints' or 'Leaks' don't qualify - the sources of those always have an agenda. <br /><br />Aside from a single initial report of questionable origin (someone who didn't personally see the declaration), the only other thing we have is the vague procurement for disposal specs. <br /><br />Unless someone has proof that Syria actually (and very unnecessarily) declared 40MT of a non-schedule chemical on their CW inventory, then they most likely didn't. It's not a fact - it was simply repeated over and over as if it were - by myself as well.<br /><br />Claiming knowledge of non-disclosed information - that Syria *did* declare 40MT of hexamine - puts you squarely in my tin-foil hat universe. You have to go even further down the rabbit hole to believe Sellstrom would be candidly offering *additional* non-disclosable details for a supposedly-leaked non-disclosable fact, even though he heads the organization that prohibits their disclosure. That's way too much for me. You have now gone well into tin-foil bunny-suit territory.<br /><br />The other angle to this whole hexamine thing was pointed out to one of my crusty old EOD pals. I explained the whole OPCW / hexamine thing for his opinion (he doesn't follow anything about Syria). The first thing he said was, "Only hexamine?" I said I didn't know but they were looking for CW and mentioned that as an interesting chemical. <br /><br />He chuckled and said they should have found about 20 or 30 "interesting chemicals" related just to the explosive charges a week later. If CW were an issue, then they should have found far more interesting corrosive reaction byproducts from the paint and metal and if strong oxidizers or mineral acids (sulphuric, hydrochloric) were involved. <br /><br />Then he asked me what kind of hexamine salts they found. I said I didn't know - just plain hexamine I guess. He pointed out that it would have been proof that Sarin WASN'T used. If they didn't find *any* chloride or fluoride salts of hexamine at all, then it couldn't have been any known sulphur mustard or Gx or V-agents. There wouldn't have been any point in using it in an agent that impossibly pure. Some of the hexamine would have reacted with the acid and they should have found those salts as easily as they found the hexamine. I suppose the same would go for isopropylamine. Those salts are far more stable in the environment than Sarin or its decomposition products. <br /><br />Assuming a reasonably proficient lab, where are the dozens of other 'interesting chemicals' they found? Why absolutely none related to the peeling or bursting charges? And why 'just hexamine' without any byproduct salts? If there was no acid-producing CW in that warhead, then what did it hold? <br /><br />It doesn't matter which side you're on - the whole UN story it turning out to have more holes than Swiss cheese.<br />PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-41271322781745769242014-02-15T19:34:02.685+00:002014-02-15T19:34:02.685+00:00RDX in any quantity or as a primary explosive is n...RDX in any quantity or as a primary explosive is necessarily limited to the USA. Every other country looks for cheaper or easier to produce alternatives. The plastic explosive C-4 uses RDX. Europe? Semtex -because it's cheaper/easier. US munitions makers are the only ones that can get their taxpayers to use RDX, so they used plenty. <br /><br />RDX may be used by some non-US countries in small quantities in specialty fuzes or bursting charges, but those are exceptions. Certainly nothing in a quantity that would leave the kind of residue the UN found.<br /><br />This doesn't mean *hexamine* wasn't used in the explosives, it only means RDX probably had nothing to do with its presence. PavewayIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329924099308073556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-16012669497930188352014-02-14T16:44:07.673+00:002014-02-14T16:44:07.673+00:00Also, it does not consider the fact that the Sarin...Also, it does not consider the fact that the Sarin could have been sourced by a third party and given to the rebels for use. Knowing full well the government would be blamed. the Saudi's, the Qataris the Turks, were all trying to convince the Americans to strike at Assad and take him down (they would all have the means to procure this).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-2979378096563345282014-02-14T12:32:49.663+00:002014-02-14T12:32:49.663+00:00Note that Composition B was commonly used by the U...Note that Composition B was commonly used by the US as the burster charge for their chemical shells and rockets (M687, M55 etc). Composition B is RDX and TNT, matching the findings of Hexamine and TNT in the field samples.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560859391032391947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-32709462838892675702014-02-14T11:11:20.645+00:002014-02-14T11:11:20.645+00:00So you´re saying RDX together with te Sarin is qui...So you´re saying RDX together with te Sarin is quiet likely? Gov or rebel use, that doesn´t change the field findings.<br /><br />What about this filling scenario: A number of plastic bags of eg 1l each are put in rocket (to make things easy and safe for the launching team), this together with an RDX charge, the whole thing is welded together (or are there bolts to keep it together?), brought to the battlefield and fired. Sarin together with hexamine all over the place.<br /><br />Out of your dispersal maps I seriously doubt the claimed number of rockets and the amount of Sarin. Even Selstrom says the number of casualties passing trough medical centers exaggerated. veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304138063571120909.post-76719364794533050422014-02-14T10:46:04.608+00:002014-02-14T10:46:04.608+00:00I can't say for certain, but RDX is very commo...I can't say for certain, but RDX is very commonly used as a component of military primary explosives. In contrast for example TNT requires a booster so is much less likely to have been used instead of an RDX composition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com